Thursday, May 21, 2009

When you're right, you're right.

This video is from Fox "News", and I apologize in advance for that. Still, it's important for what Jesse Ventura is saying. I'm not a big Jesse fan, but he makes some great points here. Unlike his right-wing interlocutor, he has the honesty to call torture for what it is. Naturally, the wingers want to make out that he's being all soft and gooey on the terrorists, but he gets it exactly right:

If we’re not going to be a country that goes by the rule of law, whether it’s convenient or inconvenient, then what do we stand for?

I’m not worried about their welfare, I’m worried about what our country stands for.

The reason I bring this up, though, is that it came up in a conversation on FaceBook. Another liberal friend posted the video, and a local conservative extremist commented that she had listened to Ventura, and that he was a loony who believes in conspiracy theories.

So if you want, go back and watch the video again. There's nothing loony in there, it's all based on documented fact. There are no conspiracy theories; he's talking about what we already know: that people being held by the armed forces of the United States were tortured on orders from the highest levels of the government. No conspiracy, just fact.

There's more than that, though. Conservatives like to claim that they're patriots, but they're really not. They think that if you object to torture being committed by our government, you're loony. It's we liberals who are the patriots. You see, we believe that our country is better than this. When we criticize our country, we are calling upon our leaders and ourselves to live up to our highest ideals.

It's the conservatives who think that torture, indefinite detention, and the gross imbalances in wealth and poverty, access to health care, housing, education and other basic human needs, are consistent with their vision of America. If that's the standard you hold your country to how can you call yourself a patriot?


Anonymous Parent Planning said...

He actually did make some great points, I agree. I still to this day have a hard time not seeing him as his WWF wrestling character. Anyway, I have been very busy lately with my parent planning business and wanted to thank you for your hard work on this blog. I enjoy coming home and reading your blog as I unwind.

May 23, 2009 3:45 PM  
Anonymous Tom McC said...

This is a good one. I read recently that the Body said that if you put him in a room with Dick Cheney and the right equipment to waterboard him, he could get Cheney to confess to the Sharon Tate murder.

May 26, 2009 10:23 PM  
Anonymous Mark McCullough said...

I don't like the line of logic that Jesse (and about 50 million other people) always eventually resort to which maintains that, if you're not IN the military or haven't been in the military, you're not competent to comment on defense. Conversely, the Foxes are totally off the track by insisting that the objector provide a better solution to getting information via torture.

That said, I think Jesse did good. Is it me, or did it look to anyone else like Jesse didn't realize that maybe he wasn't going to get a lot of support on that show?

I'm kinda behind Jesse's idea about sitting down in the room with Cheney and some "Enhanced Interrogation" equipment. I just hope "Shotgun Dick" doesn't cave too fast.

Plus....Fox called him "The Governator". That's Ah-nold. Get yer facts straight, Fox!

May 28, 2009 9:35 AM  
Blogger Jack McCullough said...

Mar, I basically agree with you. On the other hand, I think it's useful to point out the hypocrisy of the chicken hawks and war wimps who are gleeful to send other people to kill and die, but were so adept at avoiding military service themselves.

June 01, 2009 9:40 AM  

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